Exploring AI's Evolution and Ethical Implications with Craig Stonaha

Prepare to have your preconceived notions about AI shattered. We're not talking about Hollywood's sci-fi plotline, but the very real use of algorithms and data mimicking human behavior.  Our guest is none other than Craig Stonaha from Laughing Rock Technologies, who dissects the essence of what AI truly is.  Drawing parallels between the evolution of hardware companies like Nvidia and Intel and the rise of AI, Craig will take us on a fascinating journey to the heart of this groundbreaking technology.

However, as we marvel at AI's increasing sophistication and the transformative potential it holds for sectors across the board, we can't ignore the crucial ethical considerations at play.  Craig emphasizes the importance of human-driven guidance in coding AI, highlighting the consequences of overlooking this aspect.  As we get a glimpse into the future, where AI acquires knowledge from the entirety of the internet and potentially surpasses human intelligence, we must ask ourselves:  Are we ready and equipped to handle such a reality responsibly?  Join us for this riveting discussion that touches not only on cutting-edge technology but also on our fundamental human values.
PS - the description above was written from AI listening to the podcast w/ Craig.
  
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Chapters

• 0:31 Understanding AI
• 8:21 The Impact of AI on Society
• 17:42 Impact of AI on Ethics, Morals

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:31

Hello, this is Brad Wiseman. You're listening to Real Estate and you. We are back in the studio and we have a really interesting topic that we're going to talk about today. You might be hearing this stuff all over the news, all over podcasts, all over everywhere actually, and it's AI. The word is AI, or the two letters are AI, not the word. This sounds like funny. The word is. It's from Saturday Night Live, I think, but we have Craig Stonehall here from Laughing Rock Technologies. He happens to do our tech stuff here at the office. He's been a good friend for who 25 years or so. When I came up to questions I had on AI, I thought I am going to bring Craig Stonehall in because I'm sure he has been studying this or looking at what this is all about. So how are you doing, craig? I'm doing great. How are you doing Brad? I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for coming in. No, I'm glad to be here again.

Speaker 2 1:22

I think this is my second time.

Speaker 1 1:23

At least second. Yeah, I think it's second time. It's one of my favorite shows. It's been a while it has been, but I'm a big fan of the show. Thank you so much. Are you still doing your podcast too?

Speaker 2 1:32

I am. We're not as popular as you. Well, that's not all that I wouldn't say.

Speaker 1 1:35

Your show is different. You get the drink on your show. Oh, we drink too much. Yeah, you drink a lot, it's probably a lot of different yeah. I think sometimes you actually forget the mics on. I can just tell, and they're swearing a lot on your show.

Speaker 2 1:47

A little bit. We're PG-13.

Speaker 1 1:49

You're PG-13.

Speaker 2 1:50

That's right. So we can say like some words, not all the bad ones. You can say all the words we're not believe in anything.

Speaker 1 1:56

I didn't think so. I was on there once you were on our show and I liked it. It was very cool, very cool laid back format. So let's dive into AI, the artificial intelligence. This whole thing has just been blowing up we arts. I'm seeing it everywhere. It's on all kinds of podcasts. I heard a podcast with on Edmai let's Show and that is what really prompted me to give you a call. Is it's sounding scary? Some of this stuff it's sounding scary and I don't want to be doom and gloom, but just give me like a brief, like what is AI for people? That?

Speaker 2 2:31

have no idea. There are so many misconceptions about what AI I mean. I think sci-fi has lied to us over the last 30, 40 years or whatever. It's not, Lieutenant Commander. Data from Star Trek, the next generation, it's not how from 2001. And maybe at some point it will be something like that. But what we're seeing right now is the emergence of algorithmic machine learning. Now, that is a sub component of AI.

Speaker 1 2:57

Ethnic machine learning.

Speaker 2 2:58

That is the vast majority of what we're seeing out there. What we mean by that is a good example. So your kid is intelligence, not artificial, real, but you're intelligent. You send them to school. The curriculum they're learning from is the machine learning. So the way we teach these software programs to mimic humans which is what AI's definition really is is through this machine learning, through these algorithms, through this input of data in a cohesive and relevant way. So it makes for a very confusing topic, though, because they're not the same thing. They're not the same thing. What we're seeing right now is the emergence of tons of siloed we'll call them AI's for the rest of the show, but siloed intelligence. So again, think about your phone. Apps on your phone, every app does a specific thing. We're seeing them pop up in all different industries. We're seeing them pop up in education. We're seeing them pop up in finance, but they're very targeted, they do what they do, they learn within their environment, they're fed specific data and they produce very reliable, specific results Within its region. Within its region yes, got it. So I think what a lot of people think of when they hear AI is they think of that overreaching sky net.

Speaker 1 4:08

Okay, Like Siri, alexa isn't that. Is there AI involved there?

Speaker 2 4:12

I mean there's machine learning involved there, Gotcha. So as you interact with your Siri or your Alexa, or as all the different people that are on that platform interact with it, it will learn habits, it will learn trends, it will figure out how to interact better, but at no point is it really replacing a human Gotcha. It's doing some mimicking of human behavior, it's trying to get better, it's trying to learn, but it is not developing into its own intelligence.

Speaker 1 4:38

So it's not really.

Speaker 2 4:38

AI Okay.

Speaker 1 4:40

Okay, so, so is okay. So what is so? Where is it changing that? So now I think AI is it starting to get where there's actually these machines, or whatever robots, whatever you call this, this machine is it starting to learn more?

Speaker 2 4:55

I think you're talking about the press why we're hearing so much about it? Yeah, okay, so what happened was machine learning and AI haven't changed that dramatically. They have, and Elon Musk has been a huge push on this. If nobody doesn't really know where all of this came from chat, gpt, which is a huge social um, you know, machine learning AI, yes, um, elon was a part of open AI, which developed that originally, which is now owned by Microsoft, so he's been a driving factor in this whole thing. But what has really made it explode on the scene is the advancement in hardware um, nvidia making, you know, better processors for doing um, ai graphics, intel and AMD making faster and faster chips that process more reality. So what you have to understand is, when it comes to AI true AI as this thing develops, it does not exist in the same universe we exist in, right, every human is. Basically, we have the same talents, right? We would get up at the same time. We would get up in the morning. We worked during the day. We measure ourselves by how much we get done. We have to go to bed, gotcha. So we all have a common frame of existence, right? So AI will not experience time. It could live an entire lifetime in an hour or in a minute or in a second, depending on how much processing power you give to it. Wow, so AI's existence is completely dictated by the amount of processing power that is allocated to that particular intelligence. So what's happened is, over the last four or five years, hardware capability has exceptionally increased, and all of a sudden, we can give these things what they really crave, which is power. They can digest so much more information. We can set an AI loose on the internet and it can read it.

Speaker 1 6:27

I mean imagine if we read the internet, which isn't Well, I know, they can read pictures. Oh yeah, they can read pictures, because in real estate we have that going on right now. We, through command, through Keller Williams, we have a program now that when it looks at the pictures, it describes the house based on the pictures, and they're getting good at that, getting really good at it.

Speaker 2 6:46

Yes, Well, and we've even started doing I mean, for about the last year we've been doing a lot of our testimonial writing and our marketing. Yeah, We've been having chat, GBT doing.

Speaker 1 6:54

I ditched my bio on on chat GBT. I couldn't believe it. I put in a couple things, couple simple things about myself, about how long I'm in real estate, what I'm doing in the podcast, the American Dream TV show, that I'm doing all this different stuff. There's different points in my life. The paragraph was about this big that I actually gave it that big on a piece of paper. It wrote a bio for me that was one and a half pages and it sounded amazing. I sounded so freaking cool. It was amazing. Like, seriously, I want to date myself after I listen to read it. Of course, it was amazing. It was so amazing. So that's the part when I read read that too. That was. I'm sitting there going, wow, this thing is writing something that is better than I can write.

The Impact of AI on Society

Speaker 2 7:40

And I this is the first I've seen it do this I mean this whole in the last two years. It has really leapt forward. Yeah, and the biggest question I get and I give speeches on this yeah, I've been on in the technology for decades and this has been a conversation that comes up regularly, and when it let's talk about chat, gpt, first, I get a lot of people that say how should we be fighting this in academia? That's the thing I thought of. I don't believe we should be. Yeah, in my opinion, I think and this is a bold statement, but I'm going to say it, why not? I'm on your show. Whatever, I think this AI revolution that we're we're at the forefront of right now, which will happen over the next 20 years, might end up being the single greatest change in humanity, maybe ever. Well then, you're on the positive side of this. I'm not saying it's positive or negative.

Speaker 1 8:25

Okay, I'm not giving it a but you sound, but you sound more, you sound better than the guy I heard at Edmile he was. He was like, yeah, we should be like ready to dig holes in the ground and these things. It reminded me of Terminator 2 is the way he made it sound, like you know, terminator 2, where the machines took over, started shooting us and all those things, robots. And I mean that could also be what I thought in my head.

Speaker 2 8:47

I mean I probably you know a lot of people in the industry go that direction. I got to be honest. If you give me a couple of beers, I'm probably going to head down that road too.

Speaker 1 8:54

Unfortunately we don't have any beer down here, so yeah, it's good that way.

Speaker 2 8:58

But in reality we can't control that. Yeah, and again, sci-fi lied there are no three rules of robotics All right. We were watching AI is being developed.

Speaker 1 9:06

Now that we've seen AI that have become complete psychopaths, we've seen as they as it become complete sociopath serial killers Based on the one, that the one that hit me was from that show that the other podcast I keep referencing was when he said what scared them was when they were doing this test on AI and it was a machine that we're talking to and they're asking all these questions. That's going back and forth, going back and forth. And they've never, ever taught it how to lie. Okay, and at one point the person interviewing this robot or this machine he said are you a robot or you're a machine? And it stopped and went, no. So at that moment I just got chills. At that moment it learned it. It it learned something that we didn't teach it it learned how to lie.

Speaker 2 9:56

You want to hear something even more terrifying, and don't quote me on this. I believe it was MIT. Yeah, they did an experiment where they created a couple of rudimentary AIs.

Speaker 1 10:04

Yeah.

Speaker 2 10:05

And not a couple of multiple yeah. And then they released them into an enclosed environment and they fed them basic information, language, math, enough so that they were functional, and then set them loose in a controlled environment where they only interacted with each other Within minutes. They started to evolve Within in 24 hours. We had absolutely no way of communicating with them. We had to pull the plug.

Speaker 1 10:37

Because they were communicating.

Speaker 2 10:38

They had invented their own language.

Speaker 1 10:40

They had invented their own math.

Speaker 2 10:41

They had invented their own entire way of interpreting input output divide. They had become so foreign from what we perceive as our reality that the only way we could deal with them was to turn off the machine. We could not communicate with them anymore. And imagine if, if you can operate as fast as humanly possible mentally, the human language is terrible.

Speaker 1 11:00

Yeah, it's a horrible way to communicate. It is. You're exactly right and that's where they were at it's slow, so it's very slow.

Speaker 2 11:06

They replaced it.

Speaker 1 11:08

And you know computers, in the past I, I programmers, always said it was, it was uh, when this happens, do this. When this happens, do this. When this happens, do this. If, then if, then yeah, the if, then that was the. That is not still happening, it is.

Speaker 2 11:24

I mean, look just on a much higher level Everything is everything is everything finds parity. Yeah, and we always see this in technology. Yeah, uh, you know, I remember when, when laptops came out, the PC was dead.

Speaker 1 11:33

People still have laptops are still around. You know one right there. Um, he's trying to say I'm old fashioned. Do you hear that?

Speaker 2 11:41

Oh you are, let's make a note of that.

Speaker 1 11:42

We all agree. Yeah, but this is actually Commodore 64. I don't know if you've ever seen it before.

Speaker 2 11:48

See, I don't buy that, because I don't see you coding.

Speaker 1 11:50

Yeah, no, there's no way I'm coding. This is true, this is true, go ahead.

Speaker 2 11:53

Sorry, um, but uh. Ai is not going to replace all coding. So we're seeing it right now in the coding world my coders do it where they will ask an AI to write snippets of code for them and out of here, because the internet still runs on PHP and HTML and all those languages. So AI is not in the process of replacing all technology. What AI is in the process of doing is changing how we interact with our data. That's a very different thing. We still have the old coding languages and we still have to code in those, but the AI's can write that code for us, so they're sitting above those traditional. If, thens, what they're doing is they are gathering, interpreting and handing out results on massive amounts of input, and the real problem we're going to run into is, as these, as these AI's as they become more commonplace, we are not going to be capable of interacting with what they're doing. So imagine oh interesting. Imagine an AI that runs on that takes care of the financial markets and it interacts with the stock market. It is going to be working so fast that no human can possibly keep up with the trades, and other companies will write other AI's that will compete because everybody's going to want to get an edge. So you're going to have billions of micro trades happening in millions of a second. The only way we even know what happened during the day on the financial market will be at the end, when we close it and we look back, and even then, probably so much will happen that we'll need AI's to interpret the information from the AI's, because it's happening so fast.

Speaker 1 13:18

So much faster than us, right? Because we just don't. We don't do things that fast, we're not capable of that.

Speaker 2 13:24

That's why we build them. It's efficiency Wow. But it will outpace us in everything. And I actually, in one speech I asked the audience. I said give me an industry that won't be affected by AI in the next 20 years. And some guy thought he got me and he said garbage men. And I said that's a great point, it's already happening. And he said what do you mean? And I said there are already automated garbage trucks, self-driving, using Elon Musk technology, that have our tied into a network of trash cans, that have sensors in them and solar panels that when they get 80% full, they notify the garbage truck Amazing. And the machine it dumps it. It even goes to the dump on its own, no humans involved. Yeah, the AI is basically taking care of all of it. I said so, no, give me another one.

Speaker 1 14:01

It's everywhere, it's everywhere.

Speaker 2 14:03

And it will affect every single industry.

Speaker 1 14:05

Yeah, but will it make us? Does that make us better? Then, you know, that's the thing, and the place that I think is the big bonus is in the medical field. Yes, I think that the fact that it takes, how long it takes us to grow something in a Petri dish, try this thing, try that thing, try this thing, look at the reaction, did it work, did it not work. You know, just imagine if we could speed that up. Like I think about cystic fibrosis, just because I was very involved for many years and when we first started cystic fibrosis study or doing that, that, the Gala, the average age of a kid that had it or somebody had that, was like 27 years old, 28 years old by the time we stopped, 19 years later doing that gala. The average age now for most of them is almost regular expectancy up to into the 70s. And that's because they found the gene and they found it faster than they thought they would. And then they found medicine that you could take to fight that problem. Imagine if we had computers that could have done that faster than the five years. How many lives would have been saved.

Speaker 2 15:17

Well, healthcare is a great industry. To look at that, look at astronomy. Oh yeah true, and you've got an AI real time taking in every single piece of data from every single radio telescope, every single space telescope, every single listening station and simultaneously processing all of that and remap and changing our models. Oh my God, I mean it'll change overnight and we won't even understand why. What terrifies me is the military. Yeah, because, theoretically, once AIs are running everything because once you introduce AIs in the military, you're gonna have to have AIs to combat AIs you could have an entire war fought and we wouldn't even know why.

Speaker 1 15:48

Yeah, and it could be just shutting us down. I mean, the AIs could be. It might not be any bullets or any bombs, it could just be we just shut down your city or your country. You have no electric now, you have no gas grid, you have nothing.

Speaker 2 16:03

You know, that's the part that could be ugly, because everything's run through computers, and I think part of that and what we're not looking at this is the real scary part is how we're treating AI. You've got a million different people developing a million different AIs. There's no guardrails on this thing and the problem is they are like children. The input we put into them dictates the output we get, and at no point are these developers like. I work with IT guys. I hire them. These are not guys that are worried about adding morals and ethics to their code. That's not their thing. They're worried about results.

Impact of AI on Ethics, Morals

Speaker 1 16:31

Yeah, so what we put in there. They even said, like the guy that was listening to you said, even when you look at like a Twitter feed or now it's called X the Twitter feed you see, let's use Donald Trump when he would put something up and then there would be all this hate stuff and then there would be stuff that was good and people really support him and there was more hate stuff under that. He said the guy that was on that podcast said that we are teaching the machines hate, yes, and we're teaching them that we don't get along as people, and that's not good. It's not good at all. And that's the part he said if we have to be careful what we put out there, what we put into these machines, because they're learning from us and they can either learn good or bad.

Speaker 2 17:12

Well, let me ask you this Do you let your kids at the age of five just roam the internet freely without any guardrails? Absolutely not, then why are we teaching RIAs that way? That's exactly right. I mean, we teach them in a small environment, controlled with the ethics and the values that we appreciate, and we expand it as they get it, and that's really how you have to train AIs, and we won't take the time because it was profit to be made, exactly, and there's competitions between governments and all these things will come in the way and I don't know where that lands.

Speaker 1 17:35

Yeah, and the analogy I heard also was you know the Superman, obviously the comic book Superman. He comes down from his you know planet or whatever comes down on earth. He's a baby and they find him in the barn. The Kent's, clark Kent's parents are good people. They're farmers, they're good earth. You know good people. They have good morals, they have good ethics, all this stuff. If Superman would have landed in the wrong barn and they were evil people I know some of those barns. Yeah, I think so too. So do I. So do I? Were you born in one of those? I'm just trying to just no comment.

Speaker 2 18:12

No comment. I did talk to your dad once. He's just gone off the rails.

Speaker 1 18:15

So no so, but it's just interesting. In that, that analogy was really good. The AI is Superman. Okay, the only reason he did good things is because he was raised by good people. We need to do the same for AI.

Speaker 2 18:28

Well then, we take our ethics for granted a little bit too, which I think we need to take a step back from. For example, I was trying to help my daughter understand why murder is bad. Yeah, and she's like, well, it just is. And I said, no, it's not. If you look, there's a ton of cultures in this world where it's okay to murder. Yeah, depending on the situation and everything else, murder is fine. I said we have dictated that murder is not and you need to understand why, or else how will you ever understand your own moral code? It's good stuff and it's important, and it's important for this conversation. Yeah, we've made some messed up AIs?

Speaker 1 18:59

Yeah Well, that's the problem and that's the thing. So they're only going to have the ethics and morals, that of the people that are programming them, or the input that we no, not the program, the input.

Speaker 2 19:09

Yes, it's the input the input that we put in. So if we set them loose on a Reddit, a Reddit meme page, they're going to end up being really messed up. But if we I don't know, I mean I don't know where, yet I don't know.

Speaker 1 19:22

That's the problem. Think about it. Where do we send them to get good stuff?

Speaker 2 19:25

I don't know where I go to get good stuff Like it's hard to find anymore. It's amazing, right? I think we should just take them to the bar. Everybody's having a great time at the bar.

Speaker 1 19:35

AI, ai bars. There you go AI bars, just for them, alcoholic AIs. So before we end this up here, I mean this is great topics and we're going to keep it going a little bit longer than we normally do. But let's go back into some of the questions that I had was can they replace humans? Absolutely.

Speaker 2 19:50

Absolutely One of the convergence points that we're going to see and they call it a confidence and one of these points is going to be when AI is one able to self-code. Once it can write its own code, that's going to be a big moment. Two, when it can self-replicate. And three is when it control physical bodies, which we're already seeing that trash truck example. It's not a humanoid body but it's controlling truck.

Speaker 1 20:14

It's controlling. Yeah, it's a mechanical thing.

Speaker 2 20:17

And if you're looking at what Boston Dynamics and some of these other robotics companies are doing is, you are seeing the confluence happen in real time. You're seeing the robotics take leaps forward in the last 10 years while we're simultaneously seeing machine learning take leaps forward and they are going to smash together, I would guess, probably in the next 10 years, maybe even in the next five.

Speaker 1 20:34

Yeah, I'm seeing some of the robots with the facial, the actual faces that they have on them. They look like human. I mean, it's not like it used to be. They look like human beings. The faces move, the eyebrows go and everything else. So you match that with the intelligence of AI, with the mechanical. That's gonna be pretty interesting and it will happen. Oh, it will happen. Oh, I agree, and I think that'll be within my lifetime. I'll see that.

Speaker 2 20:58

Oh, definitely.

Speaker 1 20:58

Yeah, don't say no. It's like nah, I'm not seeing that for you at all. Let's ask the A-ball.

Speaker 2 21:04

Don't ask the A-ball. Don't ask the A-ball, don't wanna know, don't wanna know.

Speaker 1 21:08

And then the other thing I heard on the other podcast too is that right now the guy had said that AI is at a basically the same IQ as Einstein. Yeah, and they said it's multiplying like crazy. So is it gonna? I mean, if they're already smarter than us?

Speaker 2 21:26

No, I mean, that's a flawed analogy. I mean there's really an IQ with AI. Okay, again back to its ability to compute. Comes down to how much power we give it. Gotcha, it has access to all the knowledge of the world. No human has that. So the comparison is not apt between any one human, or even any one group of humans, and AI, because it has access to everything. You see that with chat, gpt, go ask it questions, it can pull up stuff that you can't even imagine. Oh, it's Google, because it's read the internet. Yeah, what we're really looking at here is not so much an IQ test as much as an ability to perform human functions, which we are seeing. I mean, it was 10 years ago. I remember reading an article saying AI's will never be able to create art. They're creating art right now. We actually have some of the most popular artists on the internet, or AI artist. Amazing, there are AI's that function exclusively on social media. In fact, pepe the Frog is a complete AI account that interacts all over social media. Look him up on X Twitter whatever you want to call it but yeah. I follow Pepe. He was a meme coin, NFT that is now run by AI, completely independent. No humans interact with Pepe. Wow, no humans control Pepe. Pepe interacts with all the humans Jeez. So these things are real and they have already exceeded. Like I remember watching Star Trek and thinking Lieutenant Commander Data was the epitome of AI. It's already baloney because he never had emotion. They've already had emotional AI's. That's amazing. They've had funny AI's.

Speaker 1 22:49

That's crazy. They're not hysterical, right right, bill Burr funny, but they're pretty good, not as funny as you, not as funny.

Speaker 2 22:53

I mean, I'm great, you're pretty funny, I'm kind of the best.

Speaker 1 22:56

Yeah, you're one of the better.

Speaker 2 22:57

But like second behind me, yeah, behind you, got you, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 23:02

And then Sebastian Mendes Calco.

Speaker 2 23:03

We've got to that right. Those three in that order.

Speaker 1 23:05

Yeah, those three in that order Craig, ai, sebastian. Ok, got it Sounds, right.

Speaker 2 23:09

Yeah, very good, so amazing, yeah, so it's weird. It is. There's a lot of weird stuff happening and we don't. What that shows is we don't know where it's going. Yeah, we really don't. We didn't know 10 years ago, we didn't know 30 years ago. We don't really know. I see stuff from a year ago that's already been proven untrue Amazing. So this is going to be. This is going to be a learning experience and it's going to be a real time learning experience.

Speaker 1 23:30

We're going to school. Hard knocks, it's. It's a main, hugo. Do you have any questions or anything?

Speaker 2 23:34

No, but I wonder if Craig himself is an augmentation sitting right there across from you.

Speaker 1 23:40

So you're wondering if he's actually a robot. Is that you're saying?

Speaker 2 23:42

maybe the real Craig is sitting at home drinking a beer.

Speaker 1 23:46

I ask you would do it. He kind of did lead to that. Maybe that's what's going on.

Speaker 2 23:51

I love how, every time you talk about me, I'm drinking a beer. In your mind I have a major problem.

Speaker 1 23:58

That's pretty funny there was something we never.

Speaker 2 24:00

If do we have time, yeah, go ahead. We never finished the thing with the school, which is yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 24:04

Very yeah, that. That is the. That is one of the ones education. We definitely want to cover this. So my thing with that is that high school person high school started needs to write a term paper. What's to stop them with putting in a couple of things and it writes the whole day? Don't stop them.

Speaker 2 24:18

Encourage it, why they're gonna grow up in an AI world. This generation is going to grow up with AI. If you try to stop it, you're trying to fight progress. What you need to do is change your educational standards, so it's no longer about writing term papers. Now what it's about is present your term paper, got it. You can use AI to write it.

Speaker 1 24:35

I don't get an example Greg.

Speaker 2 24:37

Well, what do you mean with that?

Speaker 1 24:38

like percent, so all right.

Speaker 2 24:40

So, for example, you, you want your students to write a term paper on a classical historical society and some kids Rome and says I'll do it on Rome. Well, they can have AI write them a five-page term paper on the history of Rome and that's a piece cake of taking five seconds. But If they have to go stand in front of the class and do a presentation on what they've learned, that's different. Now, that term paper that I wrote for them is only a study guide. They have to understand the content and be able to Bring suit to be able to regurgitate it.

Speaker 1 25:07

So I think you're gonna have.

Speaker 2 25:08

You're gonna have to have a lot more involvement from the students.

Speaker 1 25:10

It can't be just that you know, just handing in a paper, you can't the teacher reads it and goes wow, this is amazing now what you? You're gonna have access to information on a parallel level, so you have to step it up a notch and you have to be able to feed it back in a method that's useful to you. I like that I like that.

Speaker 2 25:24

So we need to shift our process on how we feed this information into our kids. Interesting, can't hide from it.

Speaker 1 25:29

I'm glad you said that because you just put a whole new Way of looking at that, because at first I was like, yeah, how do you control this? How I mean used to be a little. You know, plagiarizing was a thing years ago, you know or not. Years ago, always is, and you know, that's what I thought of. But that's not plagiarizing when you do the GPT, that's that's it's original content. Yep, so very interesting. I like the way that that went. So one of the thing before we end up I want to ask you is what do we do as a regular person? You know we're not, we don't fight it. You can't fight this, it's happening. What? What do we do? We just sit back and watch it happen. I guess right.

Speaker 2 26:04

Well, I think, as with everything else in this world, if you're not directly involved, your responsibility is to understand gotcha. I mean, you can have a political. If you have a political opinion and you don't understand what you're saying, you're part of the problem. And if you have an opinion on anything and you don't understand what you're saying, you're part of the problem. Yep, do some research and understand what's happening around you. We you know, at the end of the day, this thing is gonna play out the way it's gonna play out, yep, and I don't think fear is the right response.

Speaker 1 26:28

Yeah, no, it never is, because it actually fears not. It's the worst response. Exactly, it's educate yourself and then you. Then you can make a decision on whether you're supporting part of it, you are support, you're not supporting part of it, or whatever.

Speaker 2 26:40

But either way, it's good, things are gonna happen, absolutely you can't stop technology but if you're aware of it, you know there's a lot of opportunity here.

Speaker 1 26:46

I love the bio it wrote for me. I seriously do. I would hire me too in a second when I read. That done, I think I might be a CEO of IBM soon.

Speaker 2 26:56

We'll just tell chat. If you need to add that to your body, I'm gonna put that on there.

Speaker 1 27:00

The CEO and there you go and now I am. All you do is put it in and it just it tells you that's what you are. I love it. That's great. All right, thanks for coming in, craig. I appreciate it very much. Craig Stonehall, from laughing rock technologies, you do a great job every day. You help out our office here. We love that, and Thanks for giving us all this information about AI. Man, I love it.

Speaker 2 27:18

Thank you, brad, it was a pleasure.

Speaker 1 27:19

Good stuff, man, good stuff. All right, there you have it. We will see you next Thursday at 7 pm. All right, thank you so much.