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"We go to see a concert or a hockey game to be entertained, while behind the scenes there's a whole team of people working hard to make sure everything goes smoothly.  Did you know that it costs $30,000 a month in electric to keep the ice going for the hockey season?  From famous Comedians to the top Music Entertainers, David Farrar has seen it all and tells all on this episode." - Brad Weisman

What does it take to manage a bustling entertainment hub that hosts everything from concerts and bull riding to hockey games?  Join us as we chat with David Farrar, the General Manager of Santander Arena, Santander Performing Arts Center, and the Reading Royals hockey team.  David shares the rigorous demands of his role, including juggling events and the constant back-and-forth between venues.  Learn about the adrenaline-filled moments of maintaining an aging ice plant during crucial playoff games, the significant costs involved in its replacement, and the meticulous daily maintenance required to keep the ice rink in top condition.

Ever wondered about the complexity of creating and maintaining a professional ice rink? David provides a fascinating behind-the-scenes look at the meticulous process—embedding logos, ensuring consistent ice thickness, and the intense effort required for indoor professional rinks.  From the increased business to celebrity encounters with the likes of Chris Stapleton and Elton John, this episode is packed with engaging stories and insights.

As live entertainment makes a triumphant return, David reflects on the journey from strict COVID-19 restrictions to the vibrant atmosphere of recent events.  Learn about ongoing challenges such as city parking issues and get a sneak peek at upcoming events and performances.  From the engaging atmosphere of the Reading Royals' games to the advertising opportunities within the venue, David's insights shed light on the immense effort required to keep such entertainment hubs thriving. Tune in for an in-depth look at the dedication and passion behind managing multiple venues and providing unforgettable experiences.
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Speaker 1:

from real estate to real life and everything in between the brad weisman show and now your host, brad weisman. All right, we're back in the studio here and we got a really cool guest here. We have really, really good entertainment in this area and we're actually spoiled for a small town. We have great entertainment. We have two, two really nice places for entertainment. We have the Santander Arena and the Santander Performing Arts Center and there's a guy that pretty much runs the whole thing. He's a friend of mine, he's also a neighbor, he lives right down the street, his name is David Farr. He's the general manager of those two places and I thought you know what? Let's bring him on and find out what's going on in these places, to the arena and everything.

Speaker 2:

So how are you doing? Good, I actually thought this was at your house so I could just walk up and do this real quick.

Speaker 1:

You probably did, didn't you? I think you did ask that question, right, you were like, is it at your house? But during COVID you did it at your house. I did, absolutely, you're exactly right. Yeah, so I started a podcast. So talk about a big job to do you have. And what I forgot to mention is not only do you manage the Santander Arena, the Santander Performing Arts Center, you're also the manager of the Reading Royals, which is our local hockey team. You know that's a lot to manage.

Speaker 2:

It is it is. Thankfully, we have a good team to help. Yeah, you have a good support staff and everybody everybody, great staff on both sides that help keep me in line and keep things moving, but it's, it's a lot. Yeah, I don't have any hair anymore. What's the hardest part? The?

Speaker 1:

nights and weekends. The nights and weekends, and you're there a lot. Then too right. It's not like.

Speaker 2:

This isn't a job where you can, it's not a nine to five, or you just go home no, for for our most of our staff it's not nine to five ever um, so it's like last night we had Judas Priest, so you get home at midnight. Obviously, in my situation still got to get up and get the kids out of the door into school, but you got to be back in the office by 9.30, 10 o'clock to get ready for whatever's next.

Speaker 2:

I got an event tomorrow night at the theater, and then we've got some stuff this weekend at both buildings, so it just never stops.

Speaker 1:

Do you go back and forth when you have stuff at both buildings, like walk back and forth? Yeah, like walk back and forth to see what things are going on, because they're not too far apart.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we don't have an office up at the theater, so everyone's kind of back and forth. We go hunker down for the day if there's an event, but if there's stuff at both buildings, usually a lot of us are going back and forth between operations and myself and whoever settled on that show and yeah, so a lot of walking. It's amazing.

Speaker 1:

So, and the other thing, what are the things that I always asked about? We have the hockey team there and we were talking about this before we actually went live the ice for the hockey. I think this is what I'm. I'm always curious about this. Does it? Does it stay there the whole time during the season? Do you just put the stuff over top? Because it's not like you just do hockey, you do concerts, you do I mean, you do what's the other thing? You do the, the, the bull riding, and and you're bringing dirt and things in there, for that is the ice still there, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, uh, really late september through april-ish, the ice is there, um, and it gets covered by what we call polar floor, which is just kind of a it's like plywood oh okay, it's insulated, okay. And then when we do, we do the rodeo it's, it's ice, polar floor, plastic, plywood oh my gosh, dirt on top of that wow, and you're bringing in loads of dirt, and then they just then who's responsible for the dirt cleanup? Uh, the rodeo will do a lot of it, and then our operations crew comes in.

Speaker 2:

Does, the rest and you know, some years they get mad because we'll do that one day, and then monday to clean up, and then tuesday we'll have an event. So amazing, a lot of work, a lot of uh.

Speaker 1:

Those are some long nights, but they do a fantastic job and you were telling me, the cost for the ice per day is like ridiculous well per month the ice plate to be on every month is 25 to 30 000 bucks, so like go, do you want to do an ice skating rink? 25 to $30,000 a month and it's electric. Right, it's part of electric bill. I mean yes, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it's all electric. Electric bills go high, but it's.

Speaker 1:

It's a lot of water too obviously Cause every time you run the Zamboni or you're shaving ice but you're putting water. Amazing, that is incredible. And you had said that at one point. The old uh uh ice that was there the old ice plant, that's what you call it was starting to go and there was actually a time where you were getting a little nervous because they were playing and it started like melting a little bit yeah when they put the ice plant in.

Speaker 2:

Those things last maybe 20 years and you're 22. And it was uh, uh. The last couple of years with that thing was a little bit of a struggle there, and we had a game in the playoffs when it got. You know, when it gets into april and it gets hot, it's hard to keep up.

Speaker 2:

It's right right so it was 76 degrees out and the ice plant started to oh the bed and then you could like, you could see the ice starting to get wet and watery and it's like this isn't good, but we got. We got through that game and got it fixed, but that was a oh man, that was nerve-wracking that old ice plant was a struggle band they used to. There was an alarm on it every night. You'd wake up. Nothing's going off, oh geez, somebody'd have to go in and make sure it's still running.

Speaker 1:

And you kind of cross your fingers every night and hope you wake up and it's still on, but yeah because that's not cool, because, like, the other team comes too to play a game and all of a sudden, the ice is not ice.

Speaker 2:

Or it's starting to get weird, yeah, or it's just really wet and two summers ago we replaced the ice plant and put a new one in, and it's been great for the last two years and it runs well, but it's expensive. We finished hockey at 10 pm on Saturday night and by 2 o'clock on Sunday everything was gone. So the guy's got it out quick.

Speaker 1:

So you've got to stop the ice because it gets to be expensive. Yeah, it's expensive.

Speaker 2:

But then the daily maintenance of it is somebody's coming in every day to zam the ice and refinish it, even when they're not playing.

Speaker 1:

They have to zamboni the ice. You have to keep refinishing it.

Speaker 2:

Yep, you can't really just let it sit there for too long. So it was one day of pain to get it out, but now it's not at 7 am every morning.

Speaker 1:

Unbelievable, Unbelievable. The other thing too I always had a question about the ice when is the logos and stuff? Where is that in the ice? Because you can see the logos. You can see, that's true.

Speaker 2:

But where is that? It's all underneath, so they'll start by and you can't just dump water on the floor and it's wet, right, okay, ice plate on the floor's got to get cold and then you kind of missed water on it and you just walk and walk and walk and walk really and it takes hours and hours, and then, after you get enough of the mist, you paint it white okay missed again.

Speaker 2:

Then you put the logos in and then you just build on top of that and never knew that once you get to like an inch and a quarter inch and a half and if these numbers are off, my obstetrics blame me. But once you get to like an inch and a quarter inch and a half, and if these numbers are off, my ops staff will blame me. But once you get to like that inch and a half, you can start dumping a little more water. But you can't just walk out there with a hose and just dump water, like everyone thinks.

Speaker 1:

No way it takes. It's a process.

Speaker 2:

You can do it in a day, but to do it right it takes a good two and a half three days Wow.

Speaker 1:

Interesting logos and stuff are down there pretty deep. Yeah, that's why they don't get affected by the skates or the zan, because I always thought about the zamboni. I'm thinking you know that can't. If that would be over top the ice, taking the logo off every time, that would suck yeah, I mean it's not happening in our building because our staff's really good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, some buildings you could I've seen the zamboni rip up a logo oh geez. Or get down to where the paint is, because a lot of that stuff's painted. Yeah, the lines are painted. So we get down to where, like, you'll see the red line, and then there'll be a spot where you don't see a red line.

Speaker 1:

Amazing, they've cut down too low, yeah yeah, and they've got to redo it.

Speaker 2:

So again, from a maintenance standpoint, someone's in there every day and they check it with a drill. Right, they put a drill in, drill down till they hit concrete and look at how far the drill went in and that's how thick.

Speaker 1:

You are unbelievable what do you think, hugo, should we get in the ice business? Yeah, that's pretty impressive. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

Every fall I get calls hey, we want to do an ice rink outdoors. We should do it. It's easy and I'm like you have no idea. You have no idea, Just from a maintenance standpoint, getting a portable ice plant and all the piping and like.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's crazy, it is a lot, it's a lot. Well, so what I was blown away with, too, is that you have an operating budget for there, and this is all public stuff. It's over $6.2 million operating budget just to run those. Is that both?

Speaker 2:

the places that's pre-COVID so that's pretty low Tripled I mean our business since COVID ended has been ridiculously good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Well, that's good so.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's well over $10 million now, Amazing.

Speaker 1:

It's up there Amazing. So I got a question for you. So you meet some stars, obviously, because there's a lot of concerts in there. Sometimes you probably get to meet them because you're out and about or down in the lower areas there. Who was the most impressive that you're?

Speaker 2:

like oh my gosh, I can't met so-and-so. Chris Stapleton was really cool. You met.

Speaker 1:

Chris Stapleton when I was in Kentucky. Oh man, I would love to meet Chris Stapleton.

Speaker 2:

Super nice guy. Is he as big as he looks? He's massive he is. He's a big boy right? Yep, just a nice dude, just like as humble and nice as you.

Speaker 1:

As you see him on stage, we saw him actually out at Penn State. Okay band, yeah amazing guy.

Speaker 2:

Um, trying to think of who else. Thomas rhett was cool because my daughter got to meet him cool favorite, so that was uh that was cool. I mean for me. Now it's whoever my kids like, I'm gonna meet him yeah, that is cool experience um gotta say hi to elton, but it was a real quick like did you really? It just said hi, but you saw him like this far away really close, but it was just kind of a hey, he's kind of short, I think oh yeah, really short guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, short guy um who else most of the people we get to meet. A lot of them just get to say hi to real quick so it's kind of weird.

Speaker 1:

But uh, anybody like a jerk, I don't know about jerk I mean but like somebody made me standoffish, maybe he's not gonna say the names now, of course, but yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 2:

Does anybody like that? You know the head guys have been sink. Didn't really have time to say hi and was kind of okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I could see that. Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 2:

For the most part, they're all really cool and really nice. A lot of them show up. I really wanted to meet Lil Wayne because it was just so cool to do. But he literally pulled up in an SUV, walked on stage, performed, walked off stage, got in the SUV and was gone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So there wasn't any time? Yeah, but most of the artists, if they're in the building, will take the time to say hi, or you'll just see them walking around catering to the hallways or very cool man, so let's talk about um.

Speaker 1:

I know pitbull was there, which I was there for pitbull and it was amazing.

Speaker 2:

It was such a such a great time um, and then let's talk about the.

Speaker 1:

So you have seats for 8800 people for concerts, 7200 for hockey. The reason I brought up seats is you told me last time I talked to you that the seats are going to be removed. Yeah, so this summer now there's going to be seats put back in, don't you not give me sitting on the floor? I don't want anybody to standing room. Only that way we can get 10,000 people in there. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly no, but you said the seats are there, they're, they're gone.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the original seats are 20, almost 23 years old at this point, and 20 years ago they were, you know, a low bid project because the city done, so they're falling apart.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Can't get pieces anymore. So the authority stepped up and invested a lot of money in new seats. They're all going to be cushioned on the top and the backs, which the current ones are not, and then they're all going to have cup holders, which is really going to be cool.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 2:

I think it's the best thing we've ever done to the building and it's really going to change the way it looks in the fall? They're not going to be purple or bluish anymore. They're going to be black Good, so it's going to be a big upgrade and something that the building's really needed for a long time.

Speaker 1:

I agree. So, I was there for two Royals games this past season. That's it, yeah, two more than I was last year. I want to get in there more. I do want to get in there more.

Speaker 1:

You guys had a good time. We had a great time. It was amazing. The kids really liked the game. I got to say the first time they started fighting. I think that was very interesting for them. They thought that was fun and I'm like my kids are liking the other guy getting the crap beat out of them, which is kind of interesting. But no, it was a really good game. Uh, what I love too is it's family-friendly there. You guys got so much going on during the games, like it's not just a game. There's. There's entertainment going on, there's activities, there's things you can win. You know there's food, there's bars there. I mean it's a full. It's a full entertainment, uh, night or afternoon, depending when you go yeah, it's.

Speaker 2:

It's a great time for the whole family and it's affordable um, definitely. After covid we got lucky. We hired a new director of game operations guy named jack curly, who came to us from 10 or 12 years in minor league baseball oh wow and just brought a different element to the game atmosphere of like, hey, when you go to a baseball game like the fight and fills do a great job, baseball's there, but you can go and not watch an ounce of baseball. You're exactly right. So we did a really good job with what we have. Obviously it's a different sport, but just something's always happening Every time there's a break.

Speaker 2:

there's something going on, so it's a great atmosphere. The kids love it.

Speaker 1:

love coming out yeah, that's cool I I'm glad you guys are doing it, because it really was. It was a very entertaining night. I really enjoyed it. So let's go on to the Performing Arts Center. I actually used to do theater in there with Reading Civic Theater years ago and that has been around since the 1870s is what I saw online. That is an amazing theater and that is doing really well. You're getting some incredible acts. You're getting all kinds of different entertainment, comedians, all these things. Is that doing as well as I think it is?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the theater's had some really good years. The theater kind of cyclical, so it's like some years are really, really strong and some years are okay and then another strong year. But I mean you said the Broadway stuff's doing really well. Broadway this year has been fantastic and that before COVID Broadway really struggled, Our and that before COVID Broadway really struggled, our last couple of years have been okay right, we do six shows and two would do really well and the others would struggle, or vice versa.

Speaker 2:

And this year, for whatever reason, everything has just done great, that's great.

Speaker 1:

I think people are out again too. I mean, a lot of us were very optimistic when COVID was well. Everybody had an end date for COVID. Mine was a lot earlier than anybody else's. I was unmasking and you know, whatever you want to call it I was doing everything way ahead. But there's a lot of people that waited a longer time, and I think right now we're at the point where, no matter where you were with COVID, you're now back to life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, last night was an example of that. Obviously, we had Judas Priest in 5,000 people. Judas Priest was our first show in the arena out of COVID. Everyone had to be masked, Everyone had to have their vaccination cards checked at the entrance and it struggled. We did like I don't know 2,800, 3,000.

Speaker 2:

Wow, and nobody bought merch. Nobody bought food and beverage. It was a rough night, yeah, but you got back. You couldn't go in backstage hallway without your vaccination card, like it was crazy. And then last night nobody got checked at the door, no one had a mask on, no restrictions backstage. It's wonderful, isn't it? And it did huge business.

Speaker 1:

So it's to me, last night was kind of the— that's a cool way to measure the two. Actually, that's really cool.

Speaker 2:

Because you know that was the first and now you're showing the other side of wow it's. You know we're back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, last night was the first like full circle moment for me where, yeah, oh man, two or three years ago.

Speaker 2:

Whatever it was, this show was totally different and no one wanted to really be here like they wanted to be out. They wanted to go to a show, but it was such a miserable experience happened to like the lines were long at the door because you had to show your vaccination card, then you had to wear masks, stay six feet apart. Then you had to walk around and tell people to wear their masks.

Speaker 1:

It was just like kind of a hassle of doing business and also during that time you're telling people to do something. That is just not fun. You know it's not fun, but thank God that it's back and entertainment is back too. How is it going with parking in there at the arena? Next question, next question. Okay, we're going to not talk about parking. I know because it's a challenge. It's always been a challenge in City Reading with parking.

Speaker 2:

For us it's frustrating because we're lucky in our situation. In our venues we control everything. We control food and beverage, we control ticketing, we control event staff, ushers, housekeeping. So if there's something that happens in the building, it's on us. We'll own it or take credit for it. Whichever way it goes. We have nothing to do with parking. We communicate as much as we can. We want to be good partners.

Speaker 1:

We try to get the information out.

Speaker 2:

We try to get people to come downtown early, so it's frustrating because we don't control it, and I'm hoping that they've got a new executive director and a new board. Oh, good. And I'm hoping that they can do some things to fix it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Parking has been very expensive for a long time, which is frustrating.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

When you're paying more for parking than your concert ticket. When you're paying more for parking than your concert ticket.

Speaker 1:

Unbelievable. Yeah, so now coming up in July, august? Can you tell us some of the people that are coming up? Like, look, I know you said that you have some people that are coming. You actually said that there was maybe somebody you're going to be able to announce today, but that's all right If we don't have that we don't have it. We're not going to announce it, then we know he's full of it. You know what I mean, but I did see him at Giant, the other day.

Speaker 2:

If it happens, it'll be in September and it'll be should be huge.

Speaker 1:

Whoa See, hugo, aren't you dying to figure out what it is? So once we know, then we can get the word out. But yeah that's, I'm excited to that to know that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, look, I guess when this airs it'll be the end of our fiscal year.

Speaker 1:

Is there any good comedians in July and August? Anybody that I'd be like, because I love comedians.

Speaker 2:

Comedy's been hot as fire, it is right. We had a bunch. We had Nate Bregazzi, we had John Mulaney, joe Coy, joe Coy yeah. Joe Coy will be announced in the next two weeks, so after this it'll be out, so I can yeah yeah, yeah, good good good, oh good Back. He chose the best. Yeah he's good Literally. You want to talk about one of the most humble, nicest Really. We first had him at the theater and he's a. He's such a good story of building and building and building and he worked his ass off.

Speaker 2:

Yep thousand people, the first time I think couldn't have been a nicer dude. Comes back, sells it out again. He's big now 12 months later and sells out the theater 1800 seats. We gave him a skateboard, we gave him we like we really rolled out the red carpet for a sold-out show and he loved it. Then he came back next time in the arena and sold out. I think he'll sell it again this time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so he goes from selling thousand people at the performing arts center. Right is that what you said to 1800? To selling out the arena 7 at the Performing Arts Center? Right? Is that what you said To 1,800. To selling out the arena 7,000.

Speaker 2:

And that's what we like, right? I love that, and Joe's one of those guys that you know comedy's awesome because those guys play everywhere. Yeah, they do so, Joe, you know, unlike a rock show where they're going to play Philadelphia at Wells Fargo Center or they're going to play Reading.

Speaker 1:

Right, right.

Speaker 2:

Both. Joe will go play Wells Fargo I think he just played it a couple weeks ago. He'll come back to Reading in the fall and because he's comedy and his touring is cheaper, he doesn't care that we have 10,000 less seats.

Speaker 1:

Right, right.

Speaker 2:

The dude wants to perform and he wants to play everywhere, and so he'll play Philly and Hershey and Reading and Wilkes-Barre. That's cool, and comedy is the touring comedians that do that are awesome yeah and and joe knows that he started here with 800 people come back every year.

Speaker 1:

That's cool, I can. That's really cool. It's really cool. And then jim gaffigan was here too. I went to see him here when he was here. He's been here a few times, I'd love to get him back he's. I think he's been doing too much tv, so he's yeah, I wrote a whole lot, correct gaffigan bill bird.

Speaker 2:

Jeff dunham mulaney. I've had kevin Hart a few times yeah.

Speaker 1:

Kevin Hart's small have you seen him in person.

Speaker 1:

He's definitely tiny. Okay, this is another question I have, and then we're going to wrap it up. So what is the weirdest? Did you have any weird requests from a star? Like you know, the story that got out years ago was do you remember the story of Mariah Carey? When she would go into the studio, she would always request just red m&ms. So they had to go through the bag of red of m&ms because you can't buy just red. That I know of and and they would pick out all the other colors and she would be. They'd be left the red. Those are definitely out there, I can't.

Speaker 2:

You can't tell you the last m&m request we had, but we've had them. You had m&m requests okay, but what is?

Speaker 1:

you don't have to say who it was, but what is there anything that buddy had said?

Speaker 2:

okay, I want, you know, seaweed salad or something, or I want this, or you know what I mean, like it's weird because food like the backstage stuff has gotten so weird like a lot of the people travel with a cook now, or they travel with an assistant who goes out and gets whatever weird stuff they want oh, so there's no rider that you have to take. Take care of weird requests all the time for lighting.

Speaker 1:

They want green lighting or red lighting. Oh okay, so that's always a weird one, or?

Speaker 2:

different kind of lamps. Elton, when he was touring, had all kinds of weird. Interesting stuff. Interesting stuff in his dressing room to make it kind of a vibey thing. Yeah, but nothing strange. The weird stuff like that's kind of gotten away yeah.

Speaker 1:

Damn it. I was hoping we'd get like a really good, something really good Like ah, they always wanted the purple whatever I don't know.

Speaker 2:

No, it's gotten so easy Like they travel with so many people now.

Speaker 1:

And again.

Speaker 2:

So many of the artists will come in. You know Eric Church literally came in on his bus, stayed on the bus, performed, got back on his bus because the buses are so nice now. Yeah, so it's like they have their own little home away from home. Yeah, so I don't need to come sit in a hockey locker room too long.

Speaker 1:

I get it. I get it. Well, you know, we were trying to get something really weird and stupid, but it didn't happen.

Speaker 2:

You want to go through the upcoming events? Just go ahead. And then Hands and Barrels with Charles Wesley Goodwin in July. That's the 20th. Okay, cool Brett Floyd, July 23rd in the theater That'll be a cool one Nice. Llamagod and Mastodon in August. For you metalheads, yep, don't know that one Whiskey Myers, is coming back. You'd love Whiskey Myers, okay.

Speaker 1:

I like whiskey, so there you go.

Speaker 2:

Los Timoranos, in the fall, is going to play August 29 and 30, which is cool. The Latin market has been huge.

Speaker 1:

Huge absolutely.

Speaker 2:

So Timoranos will do two nights in August. Before this airs, we'll have two nights of Aventurer, which is their going away tour. It's going to gross $3 million. It'll be a massive two nights for us. August 30th Coetzeal is going to be here, which is doing very well. By the time this airs we'll have announced Megadeth for September.

Speaker 1:

Megadeth. There you go, Hugo, there's your favorite.

Speaker 2:

Board teachers at the theater, which is a funny group of YouTube teachers. Nobody drank more than that crowd did, Are you serious? The last time we had them here it was insane. Mercy Me in October. I'm trying to think of what else is on.

Speaker 1:

Is Mercy Me a? Is that a Christian group? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll play the arena, do great business and then Cheyenne in November.

Speaker 2:

So we've got a lot of stuff that we'll announce over the next couple of weeks. The fall will be busy. Where do we go to find this stuff? Give me a place to go Santander-arenacom or Santander Arena and Performing Arts Center on Facebook. Do we still have suites there to rent? They're all leased. Our staff, with Tammy Doms and her team, have done a great job, wow fantastic.

Speaker 1:

Every season we have his lease for the year. What about advertising? Can we advertise there? You can always advertise. Yeah, so we can do them on the screens. You can do anything. There's all different kinds of packages LED signs.

Speaker 2:

We've got nice logos for hockey. You can put stuff on the players' jerseys Gotcha Anywhere on the concourse. Who do we talk to for Santander-Arenacom?

Speaker 1:

Absolutely awesome, that's great man. Thanks for coming out. We'll have to have you back again and talk about anybody else that's coming. Or actually, maybe, when the seats go in, we can do a seat test.

Speaker 2:

We can make sure they're very comfortable.

Speaker 1:

What do you think?

Speaker 2:

That should work Check them out.

Speaker 1:

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