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Netflix's "Owning Manhattan" w/ Jeffrey St. Arromand

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What happens when an Emmy Award-winning sports television producer transitions to the high-stakes world of New York's luxury real estate market? Join us as we welcome back Jeffrey St. Arromand, who shares his riveting journey from behind the camera to starring in the Netflix Reality TV show "Owning Manhattan." Jeffrey opens up about the unique challenges he faces as an African-American agent in the ultra-competitive luxury sector and provides a behind-the-scenes look at balancing authenticity with the demands of being constantly filmed.

We shift gears to explore the current trends shaking up the ultra-luxury real estate market. Discover the surprising resilience of the $10 million-plus market, even amidst inventory shortages and fluctuating interest rates. Learn how affluent buyers are strategically leveraging their investment portfolios to navigate these turbulent times. Additionally, we delve into the evolving regulatory landscape in New York real estate, touching on recent NAR settlements and the specific governance by the Real Estate Board of New York.

We round off this dynamic episode by discussing the unique attributes of the New York real estate market, including its distinct lingo and the intricacies of dealing with co-ops. Highlighting the impact of real estate TV shows on social media followings, we reveal the intentional efforts to spotlight genuine transactions and strong female characters in the industry. Tune in to this episode filled with engaging insights, compelling stories, and valuable takeaways!

"Jeffrey give us great insight into the market in Manhattan and surrounding areas.  Their market is ONE OF A KIND and he's Kicking IT!  Of course we talk about the Netflix Original Reality Show called "Owning Manhattan" because Jeffrey is a cast member along with his fiance, Tricia Lee!  Serhant is on the edge of the real estate industry, and it's so FUN to watch.  BINGE watch this show you'll love it!" - Brad Weisman

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Speaker 1:

from real estate to real life and everything in between, the brad weisman show and now your host, brad weisman. All right, here we go. We got a great show lined up for you. I'll tell you that much. This is going to be a repeat guest, but it's been probably about two years. Uh, you might remember this guy's name is jeffrey saint aramond, but you're going to know him for a lot of different things now these days Since I talked to him. This guy now from New York City. He's a realtor up there at a place called Sir Hand. You might recognize that real estate company. They now have a show called Owning Manhattan. It is an amazing show. I started watching it. It's excellent. He's been on the show, his fiance's on the show and many other people. But we're going to bring Jeffrey back on here today. Jeffrey, how you doing, man? I'm well man. My man, brad, how have you been? I've been good. I've been good. You've got a lot of stuff going on since I talked to you last.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a lot of progress, a lot of hard work, but all good things.

Speaker 1:

So tell me what's it like being on Now? You are a three-time Emmy Award winner anyway, so for producing shows, they were sports. From what I remember, it was sports television you used to do. And now you're in front of the camera, not behind it. A little different, a little bit.

Speaker 2:

A little bit. There's a bit of an adjustment, so it it's a little, uh, role play, role changing. Yeah, um, it was, and it was a uh, I'd say somewhat of a hard adjustment because I'm not used to being, you know, camera ready all the time so you got to make sure your look is right.

Speaker 2:

You got to make sure your suit looks well. You know it's all buttoned up, everything is good to go, and then you got to remember what you're saying and how you're saying it and the importance of how you deliver it and how could it impact your business and um and everything else. So it's a lot more moving parts. So, as a producer, you just here's what you're doing, here's a format, go after it and then I'll fix it in post.

Speaker 1:

Yeah right, there's a little bit of difference here yeah, because you don't really have say on what goes out, do you?

Speaker 2:

you don't? Yeah you. You just have to be cognizant of whatever you say can be used. It's almost like in the court of law may or may not be used against you, but you just know, whatever you say, that that could end up being used somehow some way.

Speaker 1:

So just be aware of that and um, and you know what's funny and I say a lot of stupid shit in my life. So when you guys are on reality tv it's a little different because you know, like you said, you gotta watch what you say, you gotta even just a facial expression if you hear something.

Speaker 2:

Somebody says oh yeah, you know, I mean you're like oh boy did that, did that look angry did I? Yeah, be careful where that could be repurposed somewhere.

Speaker 1:

Yes, exactly, somebody makes a meme out of it or something you know know, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2:

But you just have to understand, um, well, you gotta go into understanding the importance of your brand, um, and being cognizant of that and um, I mean, that's really the hard part. Everyone thinks that you put a camera in front of you so easy, but when there's so many moving parts involved, you know how do you tell someone off, but yet have it be said in a way that's direct and doesn't really impact you negatively. Yeah, and then obviously you know, and it is something I'm cognizant of, as is, you know, my fiance Trish is on the show. You know being, you know, someone of color, an African-American person working in the luxury sector. There aren't many of us.

Speaker 2:

So, you got to think about that as well and how that perception is and you're almost the voice of an African-American agent working in the luxury sector. So there's a lot of pressure involved and not to mention it's a show and there has to be some level of entertainment value there as well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot.

Speaker 1:

Well, just so you know you're representing well and you guys are doing a great job. I've seen I'm only three episodes in because I have kids and it's not always easiest to watch a reality show.

Speaker 2:

You're in New York City selling real estate.

Speaker 1:

You know there'll be some F-bombs around here, man, this is true, and my son, carson, would probably be like Dad. We've heard that out of your mouth before.

Speaker 2:

You know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean, I could just see him saying that. But no, you guys are doing a really good job I was. When I first went to watch, I was like you know how interesting is this going to be? You know how?

Speaker 2:

can this?

Speaker 1:

how is this going to entertain me? You know I'm in real estate 30 some years. Uh like a lot of times when, when people go, do you watch the show on HGTV? I'm like no, because the last thing, major kudos for that. It really is nice and your fiance is doing a great job. But he's done a great job.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, no. Thank you so much and it was something that you know Ryan thought about. We uh, world of wonder thought about, really gave me some thought. Really didn't want to do the same cookie cutter show that's been out there. Um, wanted to show people, um, you know, pitch in real time to developers, you know wanting to show people lose pitches, wanting to show people getting you know fired. Yeah, I wanted to show the behavior, the cutthroat behavior that is real estate, especially in New York, when you talk about these price points.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so and also, I think the biggest thing was the diversity of the cast. You know and and that was important to really speak to the melting pot that is New York City, and also you have enough storylines that really can captivate different audiences. So you may like the Jade and Chloe narrative, you may like seeing Trisha and I work together, you may like Jonathan and also sidebar. I'm in the studio where the infamous podcast conversation took place. If you're in episode three, you may not know about it yet. I don't.

Speaker 1:

Don't be. Is this spoiler alert? Spoiler alert.

Speaker 2:

A little bit of spoiler alert, but the people who are watching know what happened in this podcast studio.

Speaker 1:

Oh man.

Speaker 2:

Pretty much ripped everyone on the show.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:

That's the part.

Speaker 1:

You know I was saying to Hugo before the show started and we were just talking about it and actually my son and I were talking about this this morning, is you know? I said it's really interesting with reality TV is that, now that the show's out, you, if there was something said in one of those little private interviews that they do on with the camera guy, yeah, and all of a sudden now you got to go to work and you're like that person just called me an asshole yesterday. Yeah, I mean seriously.

Speaker 1:

I and just called me an asshole yesterday. Yeah, I mean seriously, I mean that's a little rough. I mean you don't normally hear that conversation.

Speaker 2:

Correct, correct. And again I would say, the vast majority of your audience has seen all eight episodes. So this isn't necessarily a spoiler, right, but I will say because of exactly what you said and using company resources to do it. That's why you know Jonathan was no longer uh, was fired on the show.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, wow.

Speaker 2:

Not something that's made for television, that's real time. Yeah, really fired and no longer works here. Wow, interesting that type of behavior is something that it's not acceptable. It's just not unacceptable and you just can't condone it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I agree a hundred percent, and and and you know as much as sometimes there's times where we don't get along with certain agents in our office also, or they're or we're having a difference of opinions on a certain transaction, whatever, because we represent different people. But at the end of the day, you know, I respect them for what they do. They might do it in a different way than I do it, but that doesn't mean it's right or wrong. You know it's just different opinions.

Speaker 1:

You know it's the way it is Different opinions and different perspectives. Yeah, yeah, and also egos get involved. Sometimes there's a little bit of ego there.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. And I think and now it's kind of like the dichotomy of the show you had some of the newer agents and the more experienced agents and newer agents want to, you know, propel their careers and they think if they act a certain way or do certain things, that'll help to catapult the eyeballs on them as opposed to really learning the business and understanding the nuances of it.

Speaker 1:

They want to get the the fast track, so sometimes that doesn't always work yeah, and I think I think, at the end of the day, everybody's going to know who the right people are and the people that are not.

Speaker 2:

That great, you know yeah, yeah, the cream always rises to the top. You got that right on this market you got that right.

Speaker 1:

So let's let's talk about the market, since you brought that up. A little good segue there. How's new york city doing? I mean we are. I'll just give you a quick snapshot on us. We have inventory issues, which we talked about, uh, before we went live, and then also, um, like, in our area, commercial it's just not doing that well, uh, because of people still working at home and because of that whole thing after the aftermath of COVID. Tell me what residential is looking like. I mean, you're in this total niche. You know business there, especially with your brokerage there, because you guys are dealing some serious numbers. You know for you to get a $10 million listing is like kind of common, which is crazy for us, because you could buy the whole county here. A $10 million listing is like is like kind of common, which is crazy for us, cause we've met you could buy the whole County here for 10 million. No, but no.

Speaker 2:

So tell me what it's like, tell me what's going on. It's not too different from yours in that there's still a lack of inventory because a lot, of, a lot of sellers aren't, you know, putting their properties in the market because of, number one, where interest rates are, and they don't want to take on another mortgage with twice as high an interest rate. They might have had like a 2.5 or maybe 3% rate, and now they're going to be up against this almost well. Thankfully it's dropped, like the low six rate, which is still relatively high based on where they were previously. So you have that issue.

Speaker 2:

And then you have buyers who are on the sideline, but, as I mentioned before, with the ultra luxury market the 10 million plus there's been a lot of activity there because, as you would imagine, a lot of those buyers aren't necessarily really dependent on rates. However, though, they are impacted by their portfolio and the way the market is really volatile at the moment. So there's been, there's been increase there, and that's the one sector that's really hasn't been as affected as everything else. Everything lower, I would say, from like the three to five million range and lower.

Speaker 2:

You know those, those buyers are impacted by the rates that's. That's a big difference to your monthlies, and so you know you have to be creative with different type of financing. And you talked about cream to the top. This is where the you know you really show your value as both a listing and buyer's agent. Um to your client to see what you, what are you able to do, both with your marketing and both with the transaction itself, to come up with creative ways to actually get something to close and get well, forget about clothes getting the contract first.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, and it's the thing. And like you talk about, I mean, if you're talking about three to $5 million property and they're getting some financing, the difference between that 2.95 we used to have, or 3.25 and six and a half, I mean, that's where it really starts to matter when you're talking that much money, those are some serious payment differences. I mean, even for it's all relative, because in our area if you buy a half million dollar house here and it's a nice house, you know, and it's, it's, it's a good home, but you know that's probably like your 3 million up there, let's just put it that way. So those people, they, they noticed the rate. You know it's a big difference with the rate, uh, so that's interesting. Now, when you say the 10 million, what are they doing If they're 10 million above and above? Are they bringing cash? Are they? Are they liquidating, uh, investments?

Speaker 2:

So it's a little bit of both. A lot, a lot is cash but cash.

Speaker 2:

You know, when people hear cash they think like yeah, I think people are beyond the point of thinking that they're going to bring a big, a big cash or whatever. However, though it's not necessarily cash as we perceive it to be, it could be leveraging your portfolio, and you have relationships with banks or wealth managers to leverage your portfolio to get a better rate than what's actually out there, and then, after the fact, when the rates then drop, they're able to finance. And some people are actually, you know, liquidating some stocks. You know that stock market is doing well, so liquidate some stocks. This is a hard asset. The stock market that's doing well, so they'll liquidate some stocks.

Speaker 2:

You know this is a hard asset. This is something that's tangible, you can hold on to. So you know they know now where there's less competition in the market, this is the ideal time to be aggressive, and at this point, you add that, with sellers who are going to be more open to some level of negotiability, you can get yourself a pretty good deal. Yeah, you know, and that's what. That's what's been happening in that, in that luxury sector.

Speaker 1:

So that's like so the, the sector, that what's your, what's your bread and butter, then price-wise, three to 5 million, is that like a? Is that a pretty good sweet spot?

Speaker 2:

Exactly, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

And what do you get for that? What do you get for three to 5 million?

Speaker 2:

I mean, it depends on what you negotiate, you can get anywhere. And now with the, you know, the nar settlement kind of changes dynamic a little bit for us here because we're not a part of the uh, of the mls or nar but and I never knew that until I saw the thing you did on your instagram.

Speaker 1:

I never knew that new york was like the wild, wild west, like you guys are, like you do your own thing for the most part.

Speaker 2:

I mean the outer boroughs like out, you know south brooklyn, and areas of long island, staten island. They're part of mls. But now our governing body, real revenue, the real estate board in new york they've decided they're gonna because there are a lot of copycat um cases coming out and that involve revenue. They're now going to follow the same adherence with the ruling and so right now we have to have our just getting ahead of it.

Speaker 2:

We have to have our buyer agreements set up. You know sellers for the most part are still doing the you know 5% range and then we co-broke, as we have in the past. So to answer your question, ultimately it could be anywhere from 2.5% to 3% on a sell-side commission. Wow. And then we do a little different. If it's a direct deal, maybe go down to 4% or something.

Speaker 1:

Gotcha Same as we do. That's the way it works. It's the same as us, basically. Yeah, it's all relative on that scale, but that's amazing. So that was interesting. When I saw that Instagram post, I had no idea that there was no New York like Manhattan type real estate board or whatever. That was a part of NAR, I mean yeah. So do you guys? You can't use the term realtor? Then on your.

Speaker 2:

No, no, we don't. We're a sales salesperson. And if you're, you know, then you become an associate broker, right, right, we don't use the term realtor, no.

Speaker 1:

Unbelievable. That's crazy. It's cool, though it's different.

Speaker 2:

It's very educational for us it is, and that's what makes New York different than every other market.

Speaker 1:

It's great.

Speaker 2:

Completely different. Then you throw in co-ops in there and all the you know co-op packages and everything that are involved with that is completely different animal.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what always it's always funny too when I'm watching the show is how you guys call everything an apartment. Right, that always. That's just funny for me, because around here an apartment is something you rent. You know it's other. It's either a con, a condo, something you buy a house, or that you don't buy an apartment. So it's just funny.

Speaker 1:

The terminology is so different, so it'll it'll be interesting for the audience to be like. What does that mean? So, um, let's go into. You are now up to and I'm not sure if it's the show or not, but you have 326,000 followers on Instagram. Yeah, I mean, did you see a spike when the with the show?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, A slow incremental spike with the show. And then you know I'm pretty active on social and I use a lot of folks and I do a lot of collaborative posts and stuff and that that's really helpful. But the show is definitely, has definitely helped to increase that presence.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's amazing. It's incredible. I just thought it was amazing. So is there going to be a second season?

Speaker 2:

So we haven't gotten the official green light yet. We should soon. But I mean I would say all indications based on where the the metrics read. You know, we're in, we're peaked at top three.

Speaker 2:

We're in the top 10 for about at least two weeks, two to three weeks. It's awesome. We're in the top 10 in over 40 countries around the world. Amazing, so that that bodes well. So I think I think it should be be um. It should be green green lit. Now, granted, we just heard about um. Was it buying Beverly Hills? That was just canceled.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh really, I didn't know that yeah.

Speaker 2:

That wasn't renewed and uh, neither was uh buying London. I believe it is, yeah, but I heard.

Speaker 1:

I mean not to not to be, you know, casting anything a shadow against those, but I I heard they weren't as good. My father-in-law is watching your show too, and and uh, and he was telling me he saw the other shows and they weren't quite. They weren't quite. You know, there's something about that. It's just like a podcast. It's the same thing. I mean, you know, I have how many people that have have said, oh, I'm going to start my podcast. They see my podcast and like, oh, I'm going to do this with your videos. You know, we all know that it takes planning. Yeah, there's work that's involved in it, you know, and you also have to have a bit of natural talent and and, um, where people want to see you or you know people like to see. So when I look at that show with the characters in your show right now and that's real reality tv, but I call them characters um, yeah, they're you guys. It's fun to watch. Yeah, you know, you know your fiancee's one of them too, you know, yeah, yeah, has that been?

Speaker 2:

interesting it has. But you see, the funny thing is, I've always told her and I even said this to the cast and people will always give me like the side eye when I said it I was like, oh, she's gonna be the breakout star of the show and I go?

Speaker 1:

how do you, how do you know that I?

Speaker 2:

just I just know she's gonna be Interesting.

Speaker 1:

And now.

Speaker 2:

I think that's pretty accurate. She's a breakout star of the show.

Speaker 1:

So far I've seen. Yeah, I haven't gotten that. I can see it happening. I'm just on the verge of getting into the real good stuff, right right. So now I'm like I'm going to be going home today and watching it tonight, probably binge watch it. No, it's really cool and I can see her doing that. She's got a great, great presence.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think part of it also is that we made a considered effort to stay outside of all the fray I'll just leave it at that and everything we did was really about business and whether it be closing one of the first I guess we were the first transaction to close in episode one. Oh cool, yeah, we had, you know, her moving on to um uh, pitching to the developer in.

Speaker 2:

Brooklyn at a tower in Brooklyn point and then, um, you know our listing in in Gramercy park. Yeah, so, if you follow that story arc and you see, especially as a woman, um, being that demonstrative, um, um is is something that you don't, you don't really get to see those, those characters, as it were, uh portrayed in in, in, uh, on reality shows. You know, um, and I think that's what we're cognizant of, we didn't want to be just like the women dressed up, however provocatively, to go, you know, traipsed around the city or whatever, I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1:

I didn't see any of that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was really done differently and I think that's that's the main reason why, again, I applaud Ryan and the production team because they really took some, took some chances, because everyone, everyone is used to the same, the same format, and they were. Like you know, we're going to do something different and different Oftentimes, if done well, as it was, you know. And again, we talked about this storytelling and having a great storytelling and multiple storylines for people to really fall in love with. It, it, it, it leads to success.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and if you know what I'm really happy about watching it, nothing against Ryan. I mean he's, he's great, I mean he's amazing, I mean as a realtor. You look at him as another realtor and you think, wow, to get to the level that he's at is pretty amazing. But what? I like, is it's, not it's not the Ryan show, right, you know what I mean. And and he's, he's great in it. I mean he really is, and you guys, but you guys are all good in it, from what I've seen.

Speaker 2:

And you mentioned this earlier that we brought something up earlier about ego, and that's one thing that Ryan doesn't have. That's amazing, and from the outside, looking in, you may think that, but just deal with him on a day-to-day basis. There's no ego involved.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. That's a great leader.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

It's a great leader.

Speaker 2:

Because otherwise the show, to your point, would be all about him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it wouldn't be good. Be good. No, it wouldn't. No, not that he wouldn't be good, exactly, you can only watch one person for so long and it's boring.

Speaker 2:

He's been on, you know, for 10 years, through all his multiple shows. Yeah, so it says a lot about him to be able to open up, to allow other people to, to take the lead, um, but yet at the same time it's still a business. So he knows, ultimately it comes back. It all comes back to the sir hat brand, so he wins any way you look at it.

Speaker 1:

And he's smart with that. I've noticed that even with the listings how he gives out, how he brings people into listings that he gets and the thing that I thought was crazy is I've never seen this before where the two people compete within the same company to get a listing. That's unique for our area.

Speaker 2:

Oh really, now that's common. Is that common? That's common.

Speaker 1:

We're up against each other, but like the two he actually picked the two and then they go boom, boom, boom, and it's whoever gets it.

Speaker 2:

Listen and either way, like I said, he wins either way. Let's see whomever and the one thing about Ryan. He doesn't necessarily like conflict a lot, so you know what We'll let them. They'll make the decision, you know.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, he's gonna win one or the other, but let's see who impresses the client and whoever does the job, that's who gets it well, at the end of the day, the client the the one that I saw in there the client picked the person that they wanted and I think that's great. Yeah, let the client do it, because I don't know who pairs best with the client. That's not for me to do, right, you know? That's amazing. That was really interesting. That part was was very interesting for me just because I've been doing this for 32 years and it's just such a different way of doing business, but not but it's.

Speaker 2:

I like it, I think it's great and everyone has that voyeurism to them. They always want to see what happens and that kind of puts you a fly. You're like a fly on the wall and what we do on a day-to-day basis. But now you're seeing it two agents within the same firm having to do that and pitch and I think that was really interesting.

Speaker 1:

And you know, what it proved to me is that we talk. You said this is a people business. It is. That was something that was said when you guys did the breakfast club power power, 105.1 FM, whatever it is and you did the Breakfast Club. Right, that's what it's called and I was talking about it's a people business. What I thought about that competition of those two agents was really unique and it's something I always tell our agents in training Find the common bond, find out what your customer is about, because at the end of the day you can sit there and talk I did a billion, but a billion, I did trillions. I did this a bit. 100 million it did. People don't care. They want to know that you care about them and then they care. And you know john maxwell talks about it all the time. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2:

So that's exactly what chloe did yeah, she, she figured it out yeah, she knew what he needed, she knew who he was. Nothing about him, you know. And then we go back to ego. Everyone likes to get their ego stroke, you know. You let him know that you've done your due diligence on who he is, absolutely, how separate and how different his product is and therefore he wants a different type of niche, bespoke type of marketing package yeah, as opposed to now who was more like I'm. You know, I've done all this for Sirhan. I'm the best one here and if you want someone best, I'm the one to do it. But that doesn't really resonate.

Speaker 1:

My approach is more like hers, that's more of my approach is get to know the person, figure out who they are, figure out what makes them tick, and then from there you can get a trust level started, you know. And then, once you get that trust level started, you know, then it's, then they'll, they'll listen to you, you know and what you have to say, you just have to execute.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's exactly right. Yeah, so what? What do you think's next? I mean, so are you going to? You're going to stay on the show? Obviously, if they go season two, I would think you would stay. Uh, I would think your fiance stays. Um, just keep going, right, Keep keep rocking show.

Speaker 2:

We have a couple of folks that are pretty definitive. Others they're like on the fence, don't know if their storyline continues or not, but we're going to continue with that. We're going to continue to use it as a great marketing tool, as it's done for us with our business to secure more business. So we have some great.

Speaker 1:

So you have seen an uptick in from from.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, yeah, with people who, who recognizes us.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome.

Speaker 2:

We do stuff strategically with, you know, mailers, content, everything else, leveraging the show, so people could understand that and it really speaks to, um, our ability to number one, um, our reach was one thing, but then also our reach within the brokerage community, because everyone within the brokerage community, whether they admit it or not, they watch the show and then, whatever we're doing, they want to see oh, what are they up to? Well, you know, it's just that curiosity.

Speaker 1:

They're reactive.

Speaker 2:

They're reactive to see what we're doing Cause, then that means your eyeballs are on our products and that we're going to get closer to be, you know, to doing a deal together. Absolutely man, it's all that when we speak to our prospective clients, I love it, man, I love it.

Speaker 1:

So is there anything else you want to talk about? We, we're going to, we're going to get, uh, wrap this up, but I just love having you on again. I love the energy, I love the show. I, you know, I love what you're doing in New York. There, I mean, you guys are just doing a great job, and I know you're. Another thing that you had talked about before we ended the show is that you had talked a market of Brooklyn, a lot. Right, you were a lot in Brooklyn and now you're trying to move your business to Manhattan, which we go through this in different areas too. How is that going before we end up the show? Is the show helping that happen?

Speaker 2:

No, it definitely has. We actually have a couple listings coming up in the city in Manhattan on Upper West Side, where I've sold stuff in the past.

Speaker 1:

Awesome.

Speaker 2:

So that's a good thing, um, and just just continue to leverage the brand and the success of the show to you know. Listen, we, we cold call. You know, we have our constant cold calling sessions and it's not easy to cold call when you can say hey, you know, we're now looking for uh potential products for season two to showcase. He's been sitting for almost a year and where can I sign?

Speaker 1:

Where can I sign?

Speaker 2:

No one's going to do this type of leverage other than us.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

So you know, just using that to the best of our advantage, that's what we've been doing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do me a favor real quick and let's say what your socials are like for Instagram. How do we find you on Instagram?

Speaker 2:

It was JSA underscore cells with an S NYC. That's underscore sells with an S NYC. Um, that's on all, all social platforms, on LinkedIn is.

Speaker 1:

Jeffrey St Aaron Awesome. Yeah, you definitely want to look him up everybody, cause I'll tell you what he's got. He's got a great page to look at. He's got great content. I love your videos. It's always very relevant to what's going on. And, uh, I just want to wish you the best of luck with the show, with everything you're doing and with your business for the rest of the year and for 2025. And hopefully we'll be touching base again.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Hopefully you'll see me on the 19th.

Speaker 1:

All right.

Speaker 2:

I'll hop on that live streaming show.

Speaker 1:

That sounds good, man. I'll talk to you soon, all right.

Speaker 2:

All right, take care.

Speaker 1:

All right, thank you so much. Awesome. All right, and Eremon, I'll tell you what that guy is all over the place. You definitely want to follow him on social media. We're going to be sharing all kinds of information about him so you'll be real easy to find him and watch the show. The show is incredible. I've seen three episodes and I can't wait to go home tonight and watch the rest. All right, that's about it. Thanks for watching the show. See you every Thursday at 7 pm. All right.

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